I’m always eager to find edifying podcasts to help redeem times in travel and exercise. I recently came across a useful new podcast hosted by Ryan Huguley called “In The Room.”

Check out his recent episode with the fantastic David Murray on the matters of mental illness and happiness in the Christian life. Huguley says,

[Dr. Murray as] written a fascinating and helpful new book called, “The Happy Christian: Ten Ways to Be a Joyful Believer in a Gloomy World.”

In our conversation we discuss the unfortunate stigma surrounding mental health in the church, why our minds matter so much in the pursuit of happiness, and how we can live optimistic lives without losing a realistic grasp on the world we live in.

Listen to the conversation and then pick up a copy of The Happy Christian when it drops next week.